Floyd | A new game begins with 6 players composed of 2 werewolves, 2 seers,
Floyd | and 2 fools.  Now it is night; time for the werewolves to KILL, the
Floyd | seers to IDENTIFY, the fools to IDENTIFY and the rest to SLEEP.
Gunther says (to LoneCleric), "seers who misidentify"
You whisper "point jwalrus" to Floyd.
Floyd whispers, "jwalrus is a fool."
Hloif asks, "Wait, we're playing with two seers, two fools, and two werewolves, right?"
BrenBarn says, "Yep"
Hloif says, "I just wanted to make sure I understood.  Cool."
jwalrus asks, "fools always identify seers as fools, right?"
Gunther says, "it's night, kids"
BrenBarn says, "Yes, but they identify non-seers as random roles, including possibly the correct role"
Floyd | hloif, a fool, is found as a heap of gnawed bones.
Floyd | It is now day. Time to VOTE on whom to lynch.
lpsmith arrives, full of funk, but no fun.
BrenBarn says, "Hmm"
jwalrus asks, "what do fools identify other fools as?"
Floyd | Current players (5):
Floyd | gunther has 0 votes and hasn't yet voted.
Floyd | brenbarn has 0 votes and hasn't yet voted.
Floyd | jwalrus has 0 votes and hasn't yet voted.
Floyd | boingball has 0 votes and hasn't yet voted.
Floyd | lonecleric has 0 votes and hasn't yet voted.
Floyd |
Gunther says (to jwalrus), "no idea"
BoingBall says (to jw), "same, prolly"
BrenBarn says, "random, I assume"
BoingBall says, "or random"
jwalrus says, "random, I guess"
lpsmith asks, "You have more than one fool?"
lpsmith says, "Heh."
Gunther says (to lpsmith), "2/2/2"
BoingBall says, "well, not any more"
jwalrus says (to lpsmith), "2 fools, 2 seers, 2 wolves"
jwalrus says, "we're crazy"
BoingBall says, "Now the foolish Hloif is dead"
lpsmith says, "That's hilarious."
Gunther says (to lpsmith), "yes"
Hloif wasn't foolish.
Gunther says, "Ok, if I'm a seer and not a fool, then BrenBarn is a wolf."
BoingBall says (to Gunther), "And if I'm a seer and not a fool, you're a wolf."
jwalrus says, "assuming we believe gunther, that means bren isn't a seer"
BrenBarn says, "If I'm a non-foolish seer, jwalrus is a seer."
jwalrus says, "ok, then gunther is a wolf, I think"
BrenBarn says, "Whoa, this is truly weird"
lpsmith asks, "Don't fools ID seers as fools?"
jwalrus says (to lps), "yes"
Floyd | jwalrus votes to lynch gunther.
BoingBall says, "maybe fools ID fools as seers too"
LoneCleric says, "Gunther isn't saying much."
BrenBarn says, "Ooh, wait."
Gunther says, "aiee, hey"
Floyd | boingball votes to lynch gunther.
BrenBarn says, "Well, I botched this."
jwalrus says (to boing), "that's what I'm not sure about. we'd have to ask thumper to be sure, but I'm guessing it's random"
BrenBarn says, "No, wait, I didn't"
jwalrus says, "ok, so wait"
BoingBall says (to BrB), "We'll lynch you anyway"
jwalrus says, "there can only be two fools"
BrenBarn asks (of BgB), "Why?"
Floyd | gunther votes to lynch jwalrus.
BrenBarn says (to jwal), "Only one, now"
BoingBall says, "joking, joking"
jwalrus says, "if boing is a seer, gunther is a wolf"
Gunther says, "jw is apparently the other wolf"
LoneCleric says, "If I'm a seer and not a fool, then Gunther's a wolf, too."
jwalrus says, "if I am a seer, gunther is a wolf"
Gunther says, "since he tries to discredit me"
jwalrus says, "If LC's a seer, gunther is a wolf"
BrenBarn says, "Let's try this again: If I am a seer, jwalrus is a fool."
jwalrus says, "if OKB's a seer, gunther is a wolf"
BoingBall says, "sounds like Gunther is a wolf"
Gunther says, "I'm not a fucking wolf"
BrenBarn says, "So you're single"
jwalrus asks (of okb), "what? a moment ago you said I was a seer?"
Floyd | gunther changes vote from jwalrus to brenbarn.
BrenBarn says (to jwal), "Um, well, see, I guess I did botch it -- hey, wait!"
Gunther says, "ok, he slipped up again. I don't believe him anymore."
jwalrus says, "I think it's bren and gunther"
Floyd | lonecleric votes to lynch gunther.
Floyd | A majority has voted to lynch gunther, who is strung up and dies
Floyd | before sundown. gunther turns out to have been a werewolf.
Floyd | Night has fallen; time for some to sleep and others to kill.
You whisper "point jwalrus" to Floyd.
Floyd whispers, "jwalrus is a fool."
Gunther says, "rrg"
</devil> Readers may think they have just seen Reagan wandering around a movie set dreaming of an Inertia Projector, whereas in fact they have swallowed the whole epiphany, complete with Siegfried, and Christ among the Pharisees.
Floyd | boingball, a seer, is dead.
Floyd | It is now day. Time to VOTE on whom to lynch.
BrenBarn says, "DO NOT KILL ME, LET ME TALK"
BoingBall says, "aw, crap"
jwalrus says, "I'm about to disconnect. please will no one lynch me till I reconnect"
BrenBarn says, "Ok"
You whisper "who" to Floyd.
Floyd whispers, "Current players (3):"
Floyd whispers, "brenbarn has 0 votes and hasn't yet voted."
Floyd whispers, "jwalrus has 0 votes and hasn't yet voted."
Floyd whispers, "lonecleric has 0 votes and hasn't yet voted."
jwalrus says, "or anyone else"
LoneCleric says, "We'll wait then."
Gunther has had his fill of playing for now, and goes back to the Lounge.
<tufty> You know, I was just thinking how we never get any variants on the old 'Plastic Money From Up Yukky Man's Bum' story any more.
jwalrus has disconnected.
jwalrus has connected.
LoneCleric asks (of jw), "You ok now?"
BrenBarn asks, "Are you back?"
jwalrus says, "I'm back"
</Steve> As several people who were at that reading have pointed out, the true targets of these women's attentions may in fact have been Neal Pollack (who was not clothed) and my junior high friend Paul, dressed as Wolverine.
<Steve> Plot: Supposedly, this is Quest for Glory VI. You are the hero, who after refusing to come to a guy, is struck down. Now you must continue your quest...
jwalrus asks, "ok, so boing was a seer. what did he say?"
LoneCleric says, "Well, if I'm the remaining seer, jwalrus is the wolf."
BrenBarn says, "Ok, since this is the last night anyway, let me spill what beans I have"
jwalrus asks (of LC), "you ID'd gunther as a wolf, right?"
jwalrus says, "because so did I"
BrenBarn says, "Boing did too, according to scrollback"
jwalrus says, "boing we know was a seer"
<ParserGirl> It's a demon! And it's wielding a squid on a stick!
jwalrus says, "hey, we have one of each. weird"
LoneCleric says, "Wait, GF issue."
jwalrus says, "ok, let us all share what we know before we kill anyone"
BrenBarn says, "I am either a seer or a fool.  First night I pointed at jwal, was told he was a fool.  My 'if I'm seer' statement was not sufficiently thought out."
jwalrus asks (of bren), "who did you point last night?"
BrenBarn says, "If I am told jwal is a fool, he is either a seer (if I'm a fool) or a fool (if I'm a seer)"
LoneCleric says, "I'm either a seer or a fool. But I suspect I'm a seer."
BrenBarn says (to jwal), "Like an idiot, I pointed at you again, thinking that if I got a different message, I'd know I was fool.  I didn't realize that I couldn't possibly get a different message."
LoneCleric says, "And *I* see jw as a wolf, and believe that."
jwalrus asks, "also, can fools ID non-seer people as anything other than wolves with this setup?"
BrenBarn says (to jwal), "I think not."
jwalrus says, "this is confusing because we don't know what fools do"
BrenBarn says, "Whoa, so if you"
BrenBarn says, "Wait, if someone IDs someone else as a wolf, they must be one"
BrenBarn says, "Therefore jwal is the wolf"
jwalrus says, "no"
lpsmith adds, helpfully, that he ID's BrenBarn as a baner.
Floyd | lonecleric votes to lynch jwalrus.
jwalrus says, "no!!!!!"
BrenBarn says (to jwal), "You said it yourself"
jwalrus says, "let me talk first!"
BrenBarn says, "OK. . ."
LoneCleric says (to jw), "That's better be good."
BrenBarn says (to LC), "I think he's wolf, but I'm interested to hear just for theoretical reasons."
LoneCleric says (to BB), "Sure."
jwalrus says, "ok, I think fools must ID other fools as random"
jwalrus says, "in that case, IDing someone as a wolf doesn't mean they are one"
You whisper "help fool" to Floyd.
Floyd whispers, "I only understood you as far as wanting to help."
BrenBarn says, "Hmmm, it means they are either wolf or fool"
jwalrus says, "I ID'd bren as a fool."
BrenBarn says, "And I you"
jwalrus says (to bren), "also, you *know* I'm not a wolf"
BrenBarn says (to jwal), "How?  Oh, wait, true."
LoneCleric asks (of jw), "We *do*?"
jwalrus says, "if you're seer, you correctly ID me as a fool"
jwalrus says, "bren does"
BrenBarn says, "Otherwise"
BrenBarn says, "Whoa, so LC must be wolf"
BrenBarn says, "That was close"
BrenBarn says, "Now I'm second-guessing myself, though. . ."
jwalrus says, "I know it's not you, because you'd have voted me when LC did"
jwalrus says, "so it must be LC"
BrenBarn says, "No, not true"
LoneCleric says, "I'm totally confused now."
jwalrus says, "the question is whether fools can identify non-seers as fools"
LoneCleric says, "I just stick to my vote."
BrenBarn says, "If you are a wolf, I could have misidentified you as fool both times."
BrenBarn says (to jwal), "Yes, that is the question."
<dfan> I don't speak Norwegian, but my guess is "pigfucker."
BrenBarn says, "Hmm but I thought thumper said that can't be. . ."
jwalrus says, "however, *I* know I'm not the wolf, I know that bren cannot be (because he would have killed me when LC voted for me), so I know that LC is wolf"
BrenBarn says, "I am going to check my log, hang on"
jwalrus says, "I can't prove this to bren, though"
jwalrus says, "I have also lost my scrollback when I reconnected, helpfully"
jwalrus says, "also, first night I ID'd gunther as a wolf, if that help"
Hloif asks, "Wait, are we still playing the first game?"
LoneCleric says, "Well, I'm not the wolf, I assume I'm the seer, period."
NewsBoy hollers, "Extra! Extra! Gunther has posted message 204, about 'All the Seattle MUD folk', to the bulletin board! At least it's not yet another Clinton story!"
jwalrus says (to hloif), "yeah"
Hloif says, "Be sure to let me know if/when a new game starts."
jwalrus asks (of LC), "so whom do you claim to have ID'd each night?"
LoneCleric says (to BB), "I'm sure you're not the wolf, so our fate rests in your hands."
BrenBarn says, "My log says this:"
jwalrus says, "yeah, so I should vote LC"
Floyd | jwalrus votes to lynch lonecleric.
BrenBarn | [wolf-announce] BrenBarn asks, "Now, if fool points to someone and is told they are a fool, is that person guaranteed to be seer?"
jwalrus says, "That's what I'm unsure about"
BrenBarn | [wolf-announce] thumper says, "Yes."
BrenBarn says, "Therefore jwal must be either a seer or a fool"
<mcp> "heads reentrant, jetting landscapes."
jwalrus says, "ok, I pointed to bren and was told he's a fool"
BrenBarn asks, "Am I correct?"
jwalrus says, "one of us is fool, one is seer"
jwalrus says, "therefore, LC is the wolf"
You whisper "vote lonecleric" to Floyd.
Floyd | brenbarn votes to lynch lonecleric.
Floyd | A majority has voted to lynch lonecleric, who is strung up and dies
Floyd | before sundown. lonecleric turns out to have been a werewolf.
Floyd | All the werewolves and Mafia have been killed.
Floyd | The villagers win.
Floyd | brenbarn was a seer.
Floyd | jwalrus was a fool.
Floyd asks, "That game over already?  It was just getting good.  Wanna play another?"
BrenBarn says, "YES"
jwalrus says, "yay!"
BrenBarn says, "Wow, a game with actual logic"
LoneCleric says, "I almost had you there, mortals."
jwalrus says, "that was great"
BrenBarn says (to jwal), "Man, I'm glad I didn't lynch you before you said your piece"